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  • Melon Trials

    I am a member on a French forum where I listed the melons I will be trialing this summer ( I am a melon freak), but since I owe so much to SSE for the inspiration it gave me for over 20 years, and also because I wanted to say thanks to Amy Goldman for her wonderful book on melons ( she is indirectly the women having spent the most time with me in bed in the last few years, apart from my wife , the book being on my bedside table and being visited and revisited almost every night ).

    I thought I should discuss my trials here too, I know there are a lot of melon lovers here. Being in Canada, I will grow close to 350 accessions, and a Minnesota friend 80 or so, mostly early and either northern or from mountain areas, although I have long learned with them it is better to try them than judge them because of where they come, so there are others in the lot. They come from all over the place, but the majority are unnamed or unknown ( to us) accessions from gene banks.

    I sure hope to get input from melon lovers, and I will readily share a few seed with people wanting to participate next year, it is a bit late for this year.

    Afghanistan

    Safed Sarda PI 116915
    Garma PI 116916
    Kharbuza Sarda PI 116917
    Zamburcha Gannak PI 125863
    Zermitin PI 125865
    3345 PI 125872
    3369 PI 125881
    Bijani PI 125883
    Hakimbiki PI 125886
    3406 PI 125897
    3436 PI 125910
    3492 PI 125927
    3507 PI 125930
    3579 PI 125948
    3584 PI 125951
    3587 PI 125952
    3590 PI 125955
    3615 PI 125961
    3617 PI 125963
    3618 PI 125964
    3621 PI 125967
    3627 PI 125970
    3629 PI 125971
    3631 PI 125973
    3658 PI 125982
    3680 PI 125991
    3683 PI 125993
    3750 PI 126013
    Barhanaï PI 126036
    3076 PI 126042
    3278 PI 126050
    3350 PI 126056
    3381 PI 126072
    Zarmitin PI 126083
    3430 PI 126095
    3438 PI 126096
    3437 PI 126099
    3467 PI 126110
    3471 PI 126111
    3475 PI 126113
    4220 PI 127572
    Chandalak PI 276660
    Pigmy Cassaba PI 420152

    Total 43

    Austria

    PI 323427

    Bulgaria

    CUM 82
    Persijski 5 CUM 144
    Plovdisvski Banani CUM 145
    Medena Rosa CUM 239
    Carigradski CUM 264
    Selimki CUM 275
    Vidinski Koravci CUM 301

    Total 7

    Canada

    Altaï
    Beauséjour
    Cershownski
    Gnadenfeld
    Farnorth CN 33111
    Manitoba CUM 443
    21 PI 136187
    22 PI 136188
    23 PI 136189
    25 PI 136191
    26 PI 136192
    29 PI 136195
    30 PI 136196
    31 PI 136197
    32 PI 136198
    34 PI 136200
    35 PI 136201
    36 PI 136202
    37 PI 136203
    39 PI 136204
    39 PI 136205
    40 PI 136206
    42 PI 136208
    44 PI 136210
    45 PI 136211
    46 PI 136212
    48 PI 136214
    49 PI 136215
    52 PI 136218
    53 PI 136219
    54 PI 136220
    Montreal PI 273442
    Total 32

    China

    3 PI 93438
    PI93800
    PI 157071
    Snowy White # 2
    San-Pai PI 157076
    Da-lon-hung PI157080
    PI 157081
    Pin-ko-Chin PI 157082
    PI 157085
    White Landzou PI 618819
    Sweet Melon PI 618825
    Sweet Melon PI 618826
    Yellow River Honeydew # 2 PI 618828
    Yellow River Honeydew # 3 PI 618829
    Golden thin skin melon PI 618831
    Xian thin skin melon PI 618832
    Sesame seed melon PI 618834
    ZWRM-071 PI 618837
    Beijing Li PI 618839
    LI Chi Gan ( early) PI 618842
    Changji Hong Xin Cui PI 618843
    An Noon PI 618848
    Mi Tang Guan PI 618850
    Fu Rong PI 618851

    Total 24



    Cuba

    225 PI 208741
    317 PI 208742

    Total 2

    Danemark

    Aarhus Torg CUM 147

    France

    Boule d'Or
    Lunéville
    Noir des Carmes
    Petit Gris de Rennes
    Prescott à Fond Blanc
    Sucrin de Tours
    Védrantais ( Précoce du Roc )
    Vert olive d'Hiver
    Vieille France
    Melon d'Antibes Blanc d'Hiver Ames 22803
    Cantaloup Prescott CUM 16
    Ananas d'Amérique CUM 124
    Cantaloup de Bellegarde CUM 198
    Cum 570
    Charentais de Bellegarde PI 128901
    Ananas d'Amérique à Chair Verte PI 22802
    Charentais PI 261778
    Meissonnie PI 262170
    Ananas d'Amérique à Chair Rouge PI 266941
    Cavaillon Espagnol PI 266943
    Melon de Poche PI 266946
    Vert Grimpant PI 266949
    Charentais PI 313973
    Prescott PI 377586
    Charentais PI 385965

    Total 25

    Former Yougoslavia, Serbia and Montenegro

    Fiojin PI 346789
    Temna Mazana PI 357774
    Cicarka PI 357783
    Vezena Koravika PI 357824
    Papunji PI 357827

    Total 5

    Germany

    Streits Freiland Grungenetz
    Triumph B-33
    Amerikanische Landmelone CUM 9
    Surprise CUM 15
    Netz-marktgärtner CUM 17
    Royal Sovereign CUM 20
    Eminence CUM 25
    Kaiserin Auguste-Viktoria CUM 26
    Consul Schiller CUM 28
    Freiland Mitscherino CUM 30
    Opalkugel CUM 31
    Amerikanische Zucker CUM 34
    Amerikanische Zucker Gem CUM 35
    Ananas CUM 137
    Köstliche aus Pillnitz CUM 154
    Pillnitzer Zucker CUM 156
    Frühes Süsses Wunder CUM 284
    CUM 329
    Zuckerkugel CUM 546
    CUM 547
    Hochgenuss PI 255947

    Total 21


    Georgia ( Republic of )

    Muchianskaja CUM 172
    CUM 315
    CUM 316
    CUM 317
    Dyna Zolotistaja CUM 318
    CUM 362
    Mucha Nesvi CUM 375
    Mucha Nesvi CUM 376
    Vasla Nesvi ( dudaim) CUM 377
    Susakitri ( Glasgurke ) CUM 379
    CUM 383
    Mucha Nesvi CUM 525
    Mucha Nesvi ''für die Zähne'' CUM 526
    CUM 533
    Total 14

    Great Britain

    Guernsey CUM 105
    Blenheim O range PI 266942
    Hero of Lockinge

    Total 3

    Greece

    CUM 38
    CUM 44
    CUM 51
    CUM 46
    CUM 85
    CUM 89
    Yellow Skin PI 255950
    Peponic Melon PI 273439

    Total 8


    Hungary

    Muskotaly CUM 202
    Ambrus-Fele CUM 230
    Kösàrga CUM 231
    Morzsanyi CUM 232
    Ezüst Ananasz' CUM305
    1 PI 280078
    Ananasz Voros PI 288984
    Bellegrade Cantalup PI 288986
    Ezust Ananasz PI 288988
    Kosarga PI 288989
    2700793 PI 507870
    2700794 PI 507871
    2701034 PI 507872
    2701035 PI 507873
    Ezust Ananasz PI 531298
    Pocok PI 531303

    Total: 16




    India

    547 PI 116489
    Poot Kharbuza PI 116666
    4 PI 123496
    10 PI 123502
    12 PI 123504
    Gosapala PI 123821
    Vanga PI 134196
    Sharbatanar PI 164269
    Teti PI 179900
    Teti PI 179908
    Chibara PI 182951
    11238 PI 183034
    11279 PI 183042
    11327 PI 183047
    Siber PI 183128

    Total 15
    Irak

    Cum 348
    Cum 349
    Cum 356

    Total 3

    Iran

    6277 PI 140667
    6562 PI 140714
    4 PI 211921
    13 PI 211930
    42 PI 211959
    Harbusa PI 227663
    Garmak PI 251516
    Semsury PI 251517
    PI 306133
    PI 306135
    203 PI 351132

    Total 11

    Israel
    Ananas Yokneam CUM 261
    Dvash Haogen CUM 262
    SARA ( project) CUM 271
    Oden CUM 459
    Melon Eden CUM 538
    Tal Hagilboa PI 211116
    Red Honey Melon PI 293921
    B142-5 PI 353814
    Ha'Ogen # 2 PI 353715
    Solomons 1 PI 374210
    Solomons 5039 PI 374212
    F.T. PI 378170

    Total 12

    Italy

    Rampicante Zuccherino
    Zatta
    CUM 323
    CUM 324
    CUM 339
    Verdone CUM 369
    Melone Giallo CUM 405
    Spiurella Nostrale CUM 406
    Santa Claus CUM 442

    Total 9

    Japan

    Sakata's Sweet
    Kotobuki PI266930
    Nara # 1 PI 266931
    Ogon # 9 PI 266933
    Seikan PI 266934

    Total 5


    Libya

    CUM 310
    Khiar CUM 321
    Khiar CUM 332

    Total 3


    Mongolia

    CUM 338

    Pakistan

    Kharbuza PI 116826
    2297 PI 123188
    Kharbozey PI 269474

    Total 3

    Portugal

    Blanco de Ribatejo


    Russia and former Soviet Union

    Collective Farm Woman
    Ineya
    Kzyl-Uruk CN 30488
    Guliabo Oranzevaja CN 30489
    Tridcatidnevka CN 30490
    Kercenskaja 4 CN 30491
    Moldavskaja Osenniaja CN 30492
    Cogare CUM 176
    Bykovskaja 735 CUM 273
    PI251778
    Bucharici PI 267862

    Total 11

    Spain

    AN-C-82 Ames 13246
    Melon esaito Ames 13248
    Melon Revugoro Ames 13249
    Melon Pajiso Ames 13250
    Melon escito Ames 13254
    Melon blanco pepita blanca Ames 13255
    Melon oscuro Ames 13258
    Melon amarillo Ames 13259
    Melon invernizo Ames 13261
    Melon escito, color ceniza Ames 13263
    AN-C-141 Ames 13266
    Melon carraqueiro Ames 13270
    Cuarantena Ames 13280
    Sucre Ames 13281
    Melon de pinoncillo Ames 13286
    Melon de todo al ano Ames 13292
    Verde pinto Ames 13299
    Rochet Valenciano Ames 13305
    Piel de Sapo Ames 13307
    Pinta Sapo Ames 13308
    Amarillo Canario Liso Ames 13309
    Temprano rochet Ames 13320
    Melon de olor ( semilla blanca) Ames 13323
    Tendral Verde Ames 13324
    Negro de Elche Ames 13328
    AN-C-96 Ames 13337
    Sucre Ames 13370
    CUM 563
    Amarillo de Onteniente PI 197076
    Bronceado PI 197077
    Punonet PI 224787
    Amarillo PI 271755
    Villaconajos PI 271757
    AN-C-80 PI 512478
    CM-C-3 PI 512493
    CM-C-4 PI 512494
    E-C-29 PI 512523
    V-C-30 PI 512539
    V-C-45 PI 512551
    V-C-46 PI 512552
    V-C-67 PI 512564
    V-C-71 PI 512567
    V-C-75 PI 512571
    V-C-83 PI 512577
    V-C-90 PI 512580
    V-C-101 PI 512587
    V-C-42 PI 512629

    Total 46

    San Salvador

    PI 307588

    Sweden

    Kungs CUM 148
    Ringleader CUM 149
    West CUM 151
    Vigerslev CUM 152

    Total 4

    Turkey

    209 PI 117162
    6142 PI 176935
    9267 PI 176940
    5617 PI 176949
    Kirkagac PI 179245

    Total 5

  • #2
    Wow! That's impressive! Do you sell at farmers market?

    We have gotten some good Banana melons at market here, and are trying to grow Korean Melon this year.

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    • #3
      I will start this year to sell at a farmer market, but the melons from the trials are for evaluation. I don't doubt that with so many plants, some will end up there. In the past years, I had a huge garden, commercial size actually, but I gave away my stuff. I also do trials for evaluation in organic agriculture in other fields, like potatoes ( I am presently evaluating 125 cultivars from Tom Wagner's seeds, and a few other crops like corn, both sweet and field.

      If there is a place where I would like to move, Gardenmoth, it would be about where you live. I would not be too far away from a well known climate, but it would be a little easier on me. Oh! The things I would do in Cincinnati!!! I so often feel inches away ( on a map ) of things I could grow which I amost can here... I guess it is the same for everyone.

      If anybody wants to do some trials of their own with melons, I don't consider the seeds I have as mine but everybody's. It is late for this season, but for next year, all of you, please know I am there and love to share.

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      • #4
        I forgot to ask you: is the corean a hami melon, one of those crunchy ones you eat like an apple?

        Ghee, Gardenmoth, you are making me scratch my head very seriously... almost all the sweetest accessions of watermelon, in Grin-USA, apart from Sugar Baby, are corean. I wonder if they did the same with melons. I am also trialing a pepo squash that is said to be absolutely delicious and able to produce in colder climate and under poor light conditions, and is early on top of that. We hope it is a summer squash, it would be logical with the descriptors, earliness being at the very best a semi valid descriptor in winter squash, but we will see...

        Corea was never in my mind when I decided to do the trials, I was more looking to central asia and the middle east, but this might need another look, you might just have provided the drop that makes the bucket tilt,

        I am not sure my wife will like you

        But we don't care, don't we, we are the gardeners, not them...

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        • #5
          Heh. I'm actually getting married to my tomato weirdo on this Sunday. He loves cherries the best- I'm trying him on a currant this year after not great success with Matt's Wild, Isis Cherry, Gardener's Delight, or Brown Cherry...?! (and sorry to your wife!)

          The Korean melon that I've had from farmers markets in TN is really thin rind, but I never ate the rind. It's about the size of 2 baseballs, oblong, yellow, ridged. Not quite as full a flavor as a good honeydew, but sweet. I like cantaloupe types but they tend not to like me back. :-p I saved some seeds myself and traded for some, these are my traded seed. I'll see what I have.

          We lived in TN for about 3 years, it was too hot to do much gardening successfully for me working full time -- Cincinnati is a bit colder, for longer, but the summer isn't quite as brutal.

          I've never had great luck with cucurbits, if you have some that are particularly borer resistant, I may have to talk with you!

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          • #6
            Garnet, I'm trying Korean as well, hope it works out, so far so good.

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            • #7
              Sorry garnetmoth, I am French Canadian. Of which borer are we talking?

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              • #8
                Garma Sarda and Kharbooza

                Hi Mike

                I am from Pakistan and I now live in Italy. I have tasted the Garma and Sarda you have listed and I can assure you that either Garma (means "hot weather related" ) or Sarda (means "cold weather related") are the sweetest melons I have tasted. The Garma can in fact be as sweet as sugarcane if given the right conditions. (Hot/Dry/well drained).
                Kharbuza is an ambiguous term applied to several types but more typically to a cantaloupe, which looks and tastes quite different from either Garma or Sarda. Kharbuza, the round bright yellow type, is much earlier as well and not so sweet, although it does have a unique fragrance which can be quite overpowering in a closed room.
                I have not grown any of these items (in fact I just started my first adventures with a vegetable garden this year). The observations above are from a consumer perspective.

                I wanted to ask you for the following seeds from your collection. I would be more than happy to look around to see if I could offer you something in exchange.
                Whether you have these seeds or not, do let me know it went with these varieties. I believe you must have collected at least the kharbooza by now.

                Safed Sarda PI 116915
                Garma PI 116916
                Kharbuza Sarda PI 116917

                Many thanks and good luck.

                Viqar

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                • #9
                  central asian melons

                  Originally posted by canadamike View Post
                  I know there are a lot of melon lovers here. Being in Canada, I will grow close to 350 accessions, and a Minnesota friend 80 or so, mostly early and either northern or from mountain areas, although I have long learned with them it is better to try them than judge them because of where they come, so there are others in the lot. They come from all over the place, but the majority are unnamed or unknown ( to us) accessions from gene banks.

                  I sure hope to get input from melon lovers, and I will readily share a few seed with people wanting to participate next year, it is a bit late for this year.
                  Hi, I am a melon grower 45 miles outside San Diego, California and grow Uzbecki melons. I have two varieties, one is called Golden Seeded (measured 14.2 Brix this year) and the other is Aerta Aeropuerto (football shaped with Brix of 13.0). I also have an Afghan one that is football shaped with large and wide black and yellow stripes. I would be happy to trade several hundred or up to a thousand of each variety for any of the Afghan melons you have, depending on quantity. I am looking for high Brix and total soluble solids. If you are interested let me know as I am trying to build a large collection from Afghanistan, Uzbekistan or Turkmenistan.
                  Dennis, aka Tom King

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                  • #10
                    Uzbeki melons

                    Originally posted by Viqar View Post
                    Hi Mike

                    I am from Pakistan and I now live in Italy. I have tasted the Garma and Sarda you have listed and I can assure you that either Garma (means "hot weather related" ) or Sarda (means "cold weather related") are the sweetest melons I have tasted. The Garma can in fact be as sweet as sugarcane if given the right conditions. (Hot/Dry/well drained).
                    Kharbuza is an ambiguous term applied to several types but more typically to a cantaloupe, which looks and tastes quite different from either Garma or Sarda. Kharbuza, the round bright yellow type, is much earlier as well and not so sweet, although it does have a unique fragrance which can be quite overpowering in a closed room.
                    I have not grown any of these items (in fact I just started my first adventures with a vegetable garden this year). The observations above are from a consumer perspective.

                    I wanted to ask you for the following seeds from your collection. I would be more than happy to look around to see if I could offer you something in exchange.
                    Whether you have these seeds or not, do let me know it went with these varieties. I believe you must have collected at least the kharbooza by now.

                    Safed Sarda PI 116915
                    Garma PI 116916
                    Kharbuza Sarda PI 116917

                    Many thanks and good luck.

                    Viqar
                    Hi, I am a new member of the forum. I live outside San Diego, California and have a few thousand seeds of two varieties of Uzbeki melons. I would be happy to trade for some of the Afghan varieties that you may have that are sweet. Please let me know.
                    Tom King

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                    • #11
                      Canadamike,
                      Being new to this forum and also a "melon nut" I have been loking for an Israili melon that I grew about 25 years ago. It was a netted type with greenish white interior that was very sweet and had a perfumey type smell. Can you possibly help me in my quest? Have you seen or grown this type of melon? Can I get a few seeds of some of this type of melon? In other words, HELP!?!

                      Good Gardening,
                      Rob Timm

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                      • #12
                        Ha'ogen?????????????

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                        • #13
                          Israeli Old Original, perhaps? "Perfumey" barely does it justice when it's fully ripe. I would call the flesh white. I got seed from Heirloom Acres Seeds this year. My favorite, for sure.

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                          • #14
                            Living in the Pacific Northwest...will any good melon grow in my garden?

                            Hi!

                            We have a lovely climate...wet. In Vancouver, Washington...and just north in Hazel Dell...we have the ability to grow Sweet Baby Girl and Sungold tomatoes well. We also get Powdery Mildew...badly. So leaves die, but we get huge Amish Pie Pumpkins to mature!

                            Can any good melon or watermelon not die??

                            Any splendid suggestions of varieties to try is most welcome.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by canadamike View Post
                              Being in Canada, I will grow close to 350 accessions, and a Minnesota friend 80 or so, mostly early and either northern or from mountain areas, although I have long learned with them it is better to try them than judge them because of where they come, so there are others in the lot. They come from all over the place, but the majority are unnamed or unknown ( to us) accessions from gene banks.

                              I sure hope to get input from melon lovers, and I will readily share a few seed with people wanting to participate next year, it is a bit late for this year.
                              Hey!

                              I am from Hazel Dell, in Clark County, Washington of the wet and rainy Pacific NW!

                              I love to visit Portland's New Seasons in summer and eat Charentais melons....but can I grow them? Doubtful.

                              We got the powdery mildew bad here! Not to mention a short summer...hot but short.

                              Pumpkins and squash ripen nicely...but the leaves die first. Melons don't like that much.

                              Can you tell me if any Candian lovelies could bear my climate??

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